Many of the Price Gypsies from South Wales are descendants of Elenor Ingram and Henry Price.  They may be this couple, who married in Shropshire in 1803.

Henry was a shoemaker from either Wellington in Shropshire or Newtown in Montgomeryshire.  Henry and Elenor's sons included Dick, Amos, Fighting Fred, and Bob.

Dick married a Welshwoman from Carmarthen, and Amos married Mary Ann Dailey.  In 1871 Amos was a grinder in Llanelly with children William, Richard, Emily, Cornelius, Ellen, Amos and Charles.  Son Cornelius was rated as a great storyteller.

 

Fighting Fred married Ellen Taylor.  Possible children are Sampson, Billy, Golaia, Hope, Chesi or Josiah, Cradok, Starini, and Fred.  Sampson married Muttering Jenny and had at least six children:  Sampson, Gabriel, Arthur, Billy and two girls.

 

 

 

Bob had a second marriage with Mary Braddick (nee Berrisford).  One of their daughters, Mary Ann Price, married Samuel Worrall and had 16 children; the young male Worralls fought in WW1.

 

 

By the 1930s, along with Herons, Ayres and other tribes, the Prices gathered annually at Barratt's Farm in Cadoxton near Barry (Glamorgan).

 

This was a place to trade, gossip, marry, and to find work, part of a wide circuit which took in the hop fields of Kent and the fruit orchards of Worcestershire.

 

 

 

Some of the Prices settled in Glamorgan, and Gilbert Lane in Cadoxton became known to local people as Gypsy Lane because branches of the family camped at both ends of it.

Caradock Price                        R Schatten

 

 

 

 

The Prices continued living in traditional Gypsy ways.

 

 

Old Gabriel Price made dolly pegs out of hazel to sell, and he lived in a tent in summer and an upturned water tank in winter.  Gabriel cut a door in one side and insulated the walls with straw and the roof with turf.  It must have been a healthy existence as he lived to a ripe old age.

Eventually, Caradock Price lived in a house but with his vardo (caravan) in the garden.  He couldn't read or write but he was an inspired herbalist, mixing up potions and wines to sell to local villagers.  He also made violins, and played them too.  When Caradock died, his vardo and possessions were burnt to a crisp ceremonial cinder.

 

Katherine, married to Caradock, was styled 'Madame Romany'.  She and her daughter Emily dukkered (told fortunes) at the Pleasure Park on Barry Island. 

Emily married a showman called Albert Punchinello Holland whose family ran several rides, plus Punch and Judy of course, at the Park.  When Madame died, Emily continued telling fortunes at Cardiff Market.  Her sister Ivy married Hope Lee, and sister Josephine married Michael Evon (a Kalderash Rom).

 

In the 20th century descendants of the Prices and Hollands emigrated to Canada, America and Australia. 

 

Acknowledgements

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